[om-infra] Issues about aol/compuserve customers "FWD: Bounce action notification"
Jean-Claude Vanier
jclvanier at gmail.com
Sun Mar 27 10:52:55 EDT 2016
I saw this suggestion but wasn't not sure we can do it because I
wasn't sure of the real effect of this change.
Especially, if we exchange the "From" and "Reply to" headers, the
behaviour of list might change in a way which could disturb the users.
Anyway, I propose to apply the change to the infra list first and
let's see what happens.
There are two changes we can do: "Munge From" and "Wrap Message".
If nobody objects, let's do some tests with "Munge From" first.
Is everyone ok?
2016-03-26 18:52 GMT+01:00 Colin Close <itchka at compuserve.com>:
> Hi JC,
> I could use a redirect if gmail will do this and assuming this doesn't break any other ML functionality.
>
>
> Reading the notice it says..
>
> For mailing lists we recommend configuring reply behavior to fill the From line with the mailing list's address rather than the sender's and put the actual user / sender address into the Reply-To: line. Please also note that current "auto unsubscribe" logic based upon bounces might be too rigid until this change has been in place for a while.
>
> Is there some reason why we can't do this? I would have thought it would be in our interest to comply because presumably other major mail distributors will start doing the same thing as AOL.
>
> Best,
> Colin
>
>
>
> On Saturday 26 Mar 2016 11:19:28 you wrote:
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>> we always get this kind of message.
>> It seems that your provider doesn't accept the messages sent by our mailman.
>> I don't know what to do exactly.
>> One workaround could be using another email address that will redirect the
>> messages to your actual address.
>> Wdyt?
>>
>>
>>
>> Note: another bounce message said:
>>
>> >Final-Recipient: rfc822; itchka at compuserve.com
>> >Original-Recipient: rfc822;itchka at compuserve.com
>> >Action: failed
>> >Status: 5.2.1
>> >Remote-MTA: dns; mailin-02.mx.aol.com
>> >Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 521 5.2.1 : (DMARC:AOL) This message failed DMARC
>> > Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit
>> >
>> http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: <mailman at ml.openmandriva.org>
>> Date: 2016-03-26 11:00 GMT+01:00
>> Subject: Bounce action notification
>> To: om-infra-owner at ml.openmandriva.org
>>
>>
>> This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice:
>>
>> List: OM-Infra
>> Member: itchka at compuserve.com
>> Action: Subscription bounce score incremented.
>> Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces.
>>
>>
>>
>> The triggering bounce notice is attached below.
>>
>> Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at
>> mailman at ml.openmandriva.org.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Message transféré ----------
>> From: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON at mailchannels.net>
>> To: om-infra-bounces at ml.openmandriva.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:59:59 +0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
>> This is the mail system at host relay.mailchannels.net.
>>
>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
>> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>>
>> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>>
>> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
>> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
>>
>> The mail system
>>
>> <itchka at compuserve.com>: host mailin-01.mx.aol.com[64.12.88.131] said: 521
>> 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of this message. (in reply to end
>> of
>> DATA command)
>>
>> Final-Recipient: rfc822; itchka at compuserve.com
>> Original-Recipient: rfc822;itchka at compuserve.com
>> Action: failed
>> Status: 5.2.1
>> Remote-MTA: dns; mailin-01.mx.aol.com
>> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 521 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of this
>> message.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Message transféré ----------
>> From: vzdump backup tool <root at 62-210-99-128.online.net>
>> To: om-infra at ml.openmandriva.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 00:20:52 +0100 (CET)
>> Subject: [om-infra] vzdump backup status (sd-61134.dedibox.fr) : backup
>> failed
>> VMID NAME STATUS TIME SIZE FILENAME
>> 600 ruby.openmandriva.org FAILED 00:05:50 command 'vzctl --skiplock chkpnt
>> 600 --suspend' failed: exit code 16
>> TOTAL 00:05:50 0KB
>>
>>
>> Detailed backup logs:
>>
>> vzdump 600 --quiet 1 --mode snapshot --mailto
>> om-infra at ml.openmandriva.org --compress gzip --storage local
>>
>> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: Starting Backup of VM 600 (openvz)
>> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: CTID 600 exist mounted running
>> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: status = running
>> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: mode failure - unable to dump into snapshot
>> (use option --dumpdir)
>> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: trying 'suspend' mode instead
>> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: backup mode: suspend
>> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: ionice priority: 7
>> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: starting first sync
>> /var/lib/vz/private/600/ to
>> /var/lib/vz/dump/vzdump-openvz-600-2016_03_26-00_15_01.tmp
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Number of files: 42643
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Number of files transferred: 34630
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total file size: 11287889239 bytes
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total transferred file size: 11274160365 bytes
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Literal data: 11274161705 bytes
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Matched data: 0 bytes
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list size: 1020246
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list generation time: 0.026 seconds
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total bytes sent: 11278043246
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total bytes received: 685706
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: sent 11278043246 bytes received 685706
>> bytes 32644656.88 bytes/sec
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: total size is 11287889239 speedup is 1.00
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: first sync finished (345 seconds)
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: suspend vm
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Setting up checkpoint...
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: suspend...
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Can not suspend container: Resource
>> temporarily unavailable
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
>> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
>> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
>> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Checkpointing failed
>> 600: Mar 26 00:20:51 ERROR: Backup of VM 600 failed - command 'vzctl
>> --skiplock chkpnt 600 --suspend' failed: exit code 16
>>
>>
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