[OM Cooker] [om-qa] Go/NoGo vote and meeting for .iso's 130/131

Ben Bullard benbullard79 at cox.net
Sun Apr 3 07:39:41 EDT 2016


Signed comments inline - Ben  - Sincerely do not intend to step on any 
toes and hope I'm not doing so.
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Hi Cristina,
thanks for your comments well described
sometimes, because my not good English, I can seem grumpy;-)

I just wanted to highlight the importance of vbox as a test machine.
more than 90% of new/old/curious users will test the beta in vbox.

so the expression "vbox issue" should be avoided .... especially as an 
excuse.

You make a good point about VBox Luca. Is important for VBox installs to 
work smoothly. This partly an important public relations issue. - Ben

Il 03/04/2016 11:00, rugyada ha scritto:
> Hello,
>
>
>> blocker for me:
>>
>> - i586 version doesn't boot in vbox and in hardware.
>> - install dkms modules requires wrong kernel
>> - plymouth doesn't work(in hardware and in vbox certenly). and as a beta
>> will be tested 95% in vbox, this will be a very bad impression
>>
Version i586 .iso's well tested on 3 computers and does not boot. 
Details in bug report 1585. - Ben
>
>
> Main concern for me is
>
>> - install dkms modules requires wrong kernel
> It has been repeatedly reported, for around one week at least. Issues
> don't fix them miraculously by themselves nor disappear the same way.
> We can live with postponing beta release one week if needed to take
> the time for fixing, imho.
>
   +1 - Ben - seems progress is being make here though. It's a lot of 
work. - Ben
>
> As for:
>
>> - plymouth doesn't work
> Plymouth doesn't work since  0.8 -> 0.9.
> It was "archived" as a vbox issue -which is not, sorry to say and easy
> to verify.
> https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874
>
> As plymouth issue is not going to be fixed in 2 days, our workaround
> is to remove it (temporarily): boot in text mode.
> You must know that the first impression counts a lot.
> Plymouth is the first thing we see while booting a system and it's
> broken?? Wow! eager to see the rest then... :/
> Believe me, it would not be the best introduction, which all your hard
> work deserves!
>
Plymouth has been disappointing did not know we were considering 
removing. That won't look good. I fear it will be bad for public 
relations. Reviewers, new people trying, ect, trying to recruit 
students, schools, etc. - Ben


>
>> - i586 version not booting
> What about release x86_64 iso only?
> In the ideal world we promised x86_64 and i586 so we provide them. In
> our world we are too few people to support a lot of things, at a
> certain point one need to make choices.
>
> Survey re i586 support is nearly one year old
> https://blog.openmandriva.org/2015/06/i586-we-follow-your-say
> "[...]In 1 year we will have another same poll and see how things go[...]"
> I request not to have the poll and drop i586. Unless people voting for
> yes are ready to join and provide productive contribution.
>
> In my opinion, I'd rather focus more on KDE4 release. That is support
> OMLx2 x86_64 and OMLx3 x86_64.
>
Amazing, I was meditating on this while walking yesterday.
With out more people, including developers and package maintainers and 
also more money we simply can't do i586 justice.
We aren't able to do a good enough job and that is hitting us right now. 
- Ben - Not happy about that, wish we could but reality is a harsh 
mistress. -Ben
>
> Disclaimer:
> Please take all this not as criticism or complaint, towards anyone.
> Please see it just as point of view trying to help.
> I do know that things need time and work, I'm humbly among people who
> make their best to contribute.
>
> Thank you for your attention.
>
   +1 - Ben
>


-- 
Saluti, Luca Pedrielli


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