[om-council] Feedback

Colin Close itchka at compuserve.com
Wed Mar 15 12:53:44 EDT 2017


Hi Everyone,
Here are the written up minutes as best I recall.
Jcl may have some more notes on website discussions.
Best,
Colin


On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 08:27:08 GMT Raphaël Jadot wrote:
> Hello :)
> 
> What is feedback from Budapest meeting? Was it interesting? Who was there?
> 
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 Summary of Meeting In Budapest
 
 Agenda
 
 1.     4.0 (or 3.1) plans
 2. 3.02 plans
 3. Rolling Release Plans
 4. Keeping the CIA out
 5. Replacing the remains of DrakX
 6. Release process
 7. Gael's proposals (related to that, Mobile OS and raising $$$ in ways not outlined in his current plan)

A meeting was held on Saturday at Colin's apartment In Budapest.

Plans for the release of 3.1 were discussed the conclusions drawn were.
1. That the urpmi package manager urpmi would be replaced with DNF for this release.
2. A wrapper script will be provided such that the urpmi command.
3. rpm will be upgraded to 5.17 this is already in hand with JBJ
4. Python will be upgraded to 3.6
5. Perl will be updated 
6. The net install feature of Calamares will be activated (It will be served from a git hub repo).
7. ABF will be switched over to use the Clang linker 'lld' (The switch has now been made in cooker)


3.02 Plans.
The release of of 3.02 is currently blocked a a problem with KDE bero is investigating.


Rolling Release Plans.
Before work on 3.1 can begin in earnest a number of issues with ABF need to be addressed.
These are as follows.
1. Some work will need to be done to study the dynamics of rpmrepo, the dnf meta data generation tool. It is not known how long this can take to generate the repository metadata. 
    The current urpmi method merges metadata and thus is very fast and allows rapid publishing of packages this may not be the case for rpmrepo.
2. ABF must be able to build groups of packages (such as QT5, KDE5) and group them in a container. This is essential if we are to perform QA with a Kahinah type application implemented in ABF.
3. ABF needs a built in voting system to allow QA on newly built packages

We are not going to move to full rolling release until these facilities are available in ABF.

Keeping the CIA out.
Bero brought up the point that wikileaks ahve released a notification that they will make available a bundle of exploits which the CIA have used in the past to access data worldwide.
The details are only available on application to wikileaks. Colin to explore this via the FSF.

Replacing the remains of Drakx.
We need to find substitutes for the filesharing set up applications.
We need to add setup for sshfs.
We need to find a font installtion GUI.
We need to add groups setup to system kuser module.

Cristina initiated a discussion of the release process.
It was agreed that there should be a freeze for 4-5 days once the final iso is released.
It was proposed that if an iso was was released as a prospective FINAL on a Sunday then Go/NoGo should take place early enough to release on the following Friday evening.
Because of the multiple options available for installation using Calamares an installation procedure and checklist should be created to ensure that when results are collated the options used for each install are known.
Before the Go/NoGo vote takes place this data will be examined. Also bug reports from both Bugzilla and from the Forums will be reviewed for any blocker issues.
If the result is a NoGo then the freeze should continue with the exception of bugfixes and once fixed the iso should be retested using the same procedures.
 
Gael Duval Proposal

OpenMandriva Laptop.
The prototype laptop was brought along to the meeting and demonstrated. Currently android is still the only suipported operating system.
Some work has been done on getting estimates for creating an initial prototype.
The costs for the initial design and production of the carrier board for the chosen SOM is approximately £30K with delivery being around 9 Months. 
The design and production of the tooling for the production of the enclosure is also estimated to be around £30k  a more accurate figure will be available once the design brief has been submitted.
recent conference of an open source driver for this  this version of the Adreno. Hopefully we will be able to test this out soon.

Mobile Phone.
Conceptually the monile phone proposal was very interesting but as pointed out by Bero any kind of speech interface would be beyond our resouces. 
Services such as Apple's Siri and Microsofts equivalent cost many millions to create and we do not have the resources to do such a thing.
This was discussed at some length but the general conclusion was that the speech interface may be an insurmoutable problem.
Further investigation is required

OpenMandriva Web Services
Bero showed off his mail service which looked very impressive. He voluteered to make it available to a limited number of email addresses to allow it to be evaluated
he would host it on his own server for the time being.
EasyOffice looked like a good product.
The main concern was that finacially speaking we are unable to support another server at this time. We would need this if we were to offer a 500 user trial.
This item needs to be discussed further.

Other todos
Write a new OpenMandriva Manifesto
It was felt that we already had one that was suitable but this was not discussed in any detail.

Brand brainstorm: 
This sensitive subject was discussed and the OM or OMA proposal again suggested. 
The discussion ranged around how we communicate withe the outside world. The conclusion seemed to be that we could be a a lot better at it.

 Finances:
 This crucial aspect was discussed at some length.
A vote of thanks was proposed to Bero for his finacial support in providing the servers for the ABF services.
 Previous kickstarter type campaigns of ours were not very successfull perhaps because we did not present a specific end in mind. 
 Looking at the 10,000 ISO downloads since Lx3 was released it was felt that we were not getting the benefit of all this activitiy with regard to donations.
TPG started a review of our website with emphasis on donations and how easy it was to donate. 
It became clear that we could make some big improvements in the layout of the site to ensure that the donation button was exposed where people were most likely to visit. 
It is hoped that these revisions will stimulate the level of donations. JCL took many notes and hopefully the changes will be made quite quickly.

 Communication plan.
 This item was not discussed asa we had run out of time 
 
 Decision chain specification
This item was not discussed as we had run out of time.





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