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<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">Yes, OK, good to know I suppose.
But not at all what I'm talking about. This is about getting a
release done and the quality of our product.<br>
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<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">I'm talking about us as an
association putting out .iso's to the general public with
desktops that don't work. I can understand having the Wayland
stuff in repos for more technically sophisticated users to work
with.</font></p>
<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">I don't understand putting stuff
on the sddm login page that doesn't work for most or maybe any
of us. <u>And I am proposing a</u><u>n alternative as well</u>.</font></p>
<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">Also with an eye to getting a
release actually done I don't think we have the time or
resources to try to get the Wayland stuff or other desktops to
work <u>at this time</u>.<br>
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<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">Note: Am proposing removing from
sddm login page not only Wayland stuff but also the to me the
rather useless "Failsafe X" and "Plasma Media Center". Am
proposing replacing them with the known to work and rarely break
IceWM desktop. For merely a command line interface as I pointed
out there are virtual terminals, recovery mode, and boot as
single user. Unless I'm mistaken that could also lighten up the
.iso.</font></p>
<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">Also proposing a change -
instead of one .iso with both Plasma5 and LXQt, AND all that
other stuff - we do an .iso with only Plasma5 and IceWM. <br>
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<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">If time and resources allow it
would be great for users of older and/or less powerful hardware
to also have an .iso with only LXQt and IceWM. </font><font
face="Bitstream Vera Sans"><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">For
users of older less powerful hardware it</font> isn't useful
to have to install Plasma5 and LXQt together. Indeed for some it
may not even work.</font></p>
<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">In this scenario users of older
or less powerful hardware are better supported. Also all users
may install whatever other desktops we have in repos and play or
use to their hearts content.</font></p>
<p><font face="Bitstream Vera Sans">To anyone that doesn't already
know IceWM is a <u>really</u> lightweight desktop. It makes lxde,
xfce, and lxqt look like gargantuan hogs. It is so lightweight
that many distros have and do include it along with any other
desktop install. openSUSE does, I think Fedora does, Mandriva
did, I think Mandrake did.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ben Bullard
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/26/2016 01:07 PM, Colin Close
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<pre wrap="">Ben,
I had plasma running under x-wayland ok on a Radeon R600 equipped box and it worked ok.
I have to confess though that I set the whole thing up by hand from the command line but potentially it works.
Best,
Colin
On Tuesday 26 Apr 2016 11:13:45 Ben Bullard wrote:
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<pre wrap="">1. Something in our Beta1 Bog post has me confused.
"KDE Plasma 5 now runs under the Wayland graphical server which offers
smooth and fast graphical rendering. This configuration is
experimental." On my computers Plasma/Wayland doesn't work at all. I get
black screen with mouse cursor. Does Plasma/Wayland work for other
users? Is this something we should be filing bugs about? I will grant
that it is "smooth and fast graphical rendering" at getting to black
screen...
2. Openbox desktop works the same, ie. black screen with mouse cursor.
3. Plasma Media Center. What is it? How is it different from Plasma?
Here they seem identical.
4. Failsafe X seems only to open at top left of sddm login screen a
miniature terminal which is no more useful than a virtual terminal or
recovery mode.
If I had a vote I'd get rid of all 4 of the above and include IceWM.
This would also help get us to a GA release faster. I would also not
include LXQt and Plasma together. I'd have 2 separate .iso's one with
Plasma5 and IceWM and the other with LXQt and IceWM. *Yep, that's it,
that's the ticket, that's what I'd do!:-D*
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