<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Blacky...... or are you WoBo? Dont you remember we had a long discussion ago? (by the way, all mails you have send in our conversations are still kept)<br></div>Blacky..... the Internet means you have the Choice... you name yourself BlackCrack, i have a thouthand nick names but all point to the same one, thats me.<br></div>Blacky, Server usage means NO GUI !!!!! Because real Server Guys dont need it, they use the "black Box named Console Window" because the smaller a server is, the faster an safer it works..... a GUI is for Desktop or other usage but never for a Server. All Folks who need a GUI on their Server are in my opinion those with the "Windows thinking" in their mind.....<br></div>Blacky, do us all a favour..... KDE is since a while "Microsoft"..... and no more free, the latest free KDE had been 3.17 since that it is Windows.. have a look how Windows looks like..... dont you see the truth?? its kinda KDE.... and you who so muuuuuuch fight for Linux are a Microsoft KDE friend? Well up to you.<br></div>I hope now it should be clear that i am the one who offered OM and even Kate a few times a clean stable safe rpm supporting Core System, Yes, Blacky, this is me.....<br><br></div>Blacky, if you want a Server, get CentOS downloaded, this is nearly Mandrake..... but a Server and NOT ! a Desktop... see the difference?<br></div>There is a reason for different Releases, Server based and Desktop based..... To tell you again Blacky i am a Core Networking and Server Guy and LEFT !!! OpenMandriva because of Idi*** allways speaking "we are the best but need years for a safe clean Release".... i need about 2 weeks for a brand new Linux Hybrid.... whom speaks RPM Alien PKG and more (Alien = Debian)<br><br></div>Blacky.. have a good new year<br><br></div>To all others on OM... post your Problems here and i read them, if i can support, i do, but i dont build your RPMs..... get the SOurces there where they allways came from.. LFS or more easy GENTOO !!! This is the Mother of Linux Folks.....<br><br><br></div>Best Regards<br></div>Joerg ( aka a thouthand other nicknames)<br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-31 13:34 GMT+01:00 Blackcrack <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blackcrack@blackysgate.de" target="_blank">blackcrack@blackysgate.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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well, interesting, sender, Andreas Schneider and you sign it with
joerg<br>
<br>
and the mailadress <a href="mailto:dajudge61@gmail.com" target="_blank">"dajudge61@gmail.com"</a> is the
one where had make very trouble<br>
in the last years with me.. and setting up movies in the brain.. <br>
<br>
only for the others to get a hint ..<br>
<br>
because the GTK and the theme .. well, it's maybe better to leave
the kde in orginal-theme<br>
to able the user for use his own theme .. and, it should start the
default kde panel, <br>
because in the last Beta-iso was no panel behind install, it should
be the orignal taskpanel<br>
<br>
an "Original OpenMandriva" theme it's maybe nice, also nice to
choice ,<br>
but it's also a nice thing, if all in the original from the
programmers<br>
and the User can choice , what he want .. .. imho, a button on the
desktop "I be an OMLx-Theme-lover"<br>
and the User have the choice to klick it and make all to a dark
look, which relaxes the eyes ,<br>
also in the Serverrooms .. ;) And the Peoples in the Office's, so
the 2nd choice to use OMLx <br>
have the Original theme and can easy delete the button and can just
work fine <br>
with the Original-Theme of KDE and the Admins or the Other Peoples
can use the Factory-theme <br>
if one exist on the original well working Kde -without many
modifications ...<br>
therewith it is also more easyer to make a fully "branding one
rpm-package" <br>
with an branding by install of this OMLx- rpm or not install this
rpm to have a clean well running Distribution.<br>
The Peoples should have an Choice , what they are want using and
branding .<br>
Or have easy a clean Linux from an well and Clean good Distribution
and <br>
convinced that it is possible to get clean original packages
directly from the sourcecodes of kde .<br>
If this convinced will, I think, likely to be used as a reliable
Server software.<br>
Less customizing, more clean and original and therewith more secure
<br>
and stable in thinking from the part of the software i guess what
the peoples think. <br>
<br>
this is my opinion also my belief .<br>
because more change in the software, more errors creep in<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
happy new year to the OMLX Communiy<br>
i have service in the hours of new year ..and have a view over
Stuttgart ad the Airport, <br>
well, let see the Fireworks :) well, but maybe can i be online with
my android-phone :)<br>
<a href="http://beetmobile.com/" target="_blank">http://beetmobile.com/</a><br>
<br>
best regards<br>
Blacky<br>
<br>
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<div>Am 31.12.2015 um 10:54 schrieb Andreas
Schneider:<br>
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in generell, GTK2-3 became kinda "tricky"......
its up to you to decide KDE without GTK or Gnome
with QT or Gnome LXDE/XFCE with GTK.<br>
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The trend is Gnome = more QT same as KDE<br>
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For me gnome bindings-GTK are the best solution
because it works, smoothy, faster, smaller.... and
X-Apps and G-Apps work there<br>
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If you like, want and need 3D, MESA and other Desktop
"playfull" things use KDE.<br>
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I am out on KDE, support gnome a few but a clean LXDE and
XFCE User......<br>
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Those who know and understand have the choice.<br>
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<div>In generell GTK is moving away from the "Idea" of
gnome...... I bet it will become more incompatible in
future, we will see.....<br>
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Regards, have fun and hopefully a great successful year 2016<br>
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<div>Maybe........ it will be a good Idea to have again a look
at the Gentoo LiveDVD ... doing a Fork and use the old Scripts
of Gael and have the most powerful System then.... never
forget where Geal had his Sources from ;) Why to invent the
wheel new when there is a wonderfull working DVD whom could
look other (MDK) and supports RPM with a few steps ;) It could
work if you want !<br>
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GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robxu9@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:robxu9@gmail.com" target="_blank">robxu9@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Out of curiosity, why did
we migrate from gnome-breeze to
Breeze-gtk if Breeze-gtk is more
insufficient?</p>
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2:11 p.m., "Robert Xu" <<a href="mailto:robxu9@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:robxu9@gmail.com" target="_blank">robxu9@gmail.com</a>>
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13:36, "Ben Bullard" <<a href="mailto:benbullard79@cox.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:benbullard79@cox.net" target="_blank">benbullard79@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<blockquote type="cite">I agree with
this. Indeed with
Breeze-Dark, some GTK
applications are almost
useless. <br>
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Regards, <br>
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Chris <br>
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On 30/12/15 07:32 AM,
Tomasz Gajc wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
<br>
looks like Breeze-Dark
theme for Plasma is
not yet ready to be
used on daily basis. <br>
<br>
Please see this bug
report: <br>
<a href="https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1432" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1432" target="_blank">https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1432</a>
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In a brief, this theme
does not looks nice in
GTK apps either. <br>
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My proposition is to
get back to plain
Breeze theme. Wdyt ? <br>
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