[om-council] i586

rugyada rugyada at gmail.com
Mon Apr 25 07:56:12 EDT 2016


Look:
https://blog.openmandriva.org/2015/06/should-openmandriva-keep-supporting-i586/
https://blog.openmandriva.org/2015/06/i586-we-follow-your-say/

One can say that one year is over.
Partly reconsidering our early (although valuable) purposes, we
currently cannot concretely afford the task.

PS>
You see, how easily Bero can explain it? xD




2016-04-25 13:42 GMT+02:00 Kate Lebedeff <kate at lebedeff.co.uk>:
> Thank you Bero
>
> Saving this text for the case of our soon abandoning of i586 - for blog post:)
>
>
>
>> On 25Apr, 2016, at 13:37, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <bero at lindev.ch> wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-04-25 12:15, Kate Lebedeff wrote:
>>
>>> Mmmm, i586 is normally needed by the users with lowest income:(
>>
>> These days it's extremely hard to find i586 class hardware, you'd have to go out of your way to even find someone giving it away for free anymore.
>>
>> I think most people trying to use i586 these days either simply have no idea that their CPU is actually 64-bit capable ("why would it be a 64-bit CPU if it came with 32-bit Windows?"), or they have some reason to be scared of 64-bit even though it would run perfectly on their hardware, or they're (hardly always low income) enthusiasts who need to find some purpose for their beloved 20 year-old hardware even though they have 15 newer devices floating around.
>> Typically boxes like that end up being fileservers or something on a network - something you can do with OMLx, but hardly what we do best.
>>
>> One use case I've heard for maintaining an x86_32 (let's not say i586 -- at the very least we should switch to i686 there) port is some tablets with a broken BIOS.
>> Looks like e.g. the Trekstor SurfTab wintron has a 64-bit CPU, but a BIOS that was written in 32-bit mode and will only launch a 32-bit UEFI binary.
>> This should be fixable though, there's no reason why we can't drop a 32-bit UEFI binary into an x86_64 image and just make that boot a 64-bit kernel.
>>
>>> Tomek, how many people "full time" so to say we'd need to maintain i586?
>>
>> 1 would do, if that person was really truly dedicated to the task and capable of keeping up with what we do for the other arches...
>>
>> ttyl
>> bero
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