[om-council] Meeting today?

rugyada rugyada at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 07:44:15 EDT 2016


Hello,

2016-04-07 11:05 GMT+02:00 Kate Lebedeff <kate at lebedeff.co.uk>:
>
> If anybody has a topic for the meeting, please give a shout
>

I have an argument I'd like to be advanced :)
If not today, in next C-meeting, thank you.


1. Topic rename OMLx 2014.x into "OpenMandriva 2" - OMLx 2.
Preparatory for topic 2


2. Topic respin OMLx 2 KDE4.
Preparatory for topic 3

Our *stable* release is still OMLx 2 (2014.2, June 2015). It became
LTS release, so around one year later it's time for new release
update.
I have been told to raise this topic after OM3 beta, so I punctually do.


3. Topic project OpenMandriva Lx 2 R'n'R Edition

For your convenience, I forward here below the relevant parts from our
previous conversation.


Well, I would have a last 4th one still in draft in my mind that is
project OpenMandriva Lx 2 Plasma5...
...But I don't want to scare you too much :P Also, I presume this is
not the right time.
Please take it just as a crazy rough idea :)


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Forwarded conversation
Subject: Joking... but not so much
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From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
Date: 2015-12-31 16:45 GMT+01:00

Hello,

OpenMandriva Lx 2 R'n'R Edition

https://discourse.openmandriva.org/t/lunga-ed-impervia-e-la-strada/212/18

<< [...] penso che una release con kde4 in futuro sarà necessaria(una
Rock Edition per intenderci :wink: ) perchè prima che si arrivi ad una
versione stabile di plasma ne passa del tempo >>

<< Una release con un DM finalmente stabile, completo ed
affidabile(KDE4) superaggiornata e EFI compatibile >>

~Translation:

I think we'll need a KDE4 release in next future (a Rock Edition)
since it will take much time until a stable Plasma version can be
released.

A release with stable DM, complete and reliable, fully updated and EFI
compatible >>

Sometimes funny ideas pop up, and then you may realize they're not so bizarre.


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From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-02-05 18:09 GMT+01:00

While we're managing to get OpenMandriva 3 Plasma out, this is a kind remind.

- OpenMandriva 2014 new release update.
It would simply - I guess - be a new spin featuring all updated
software. 2014 series is still our stable release atm. Willing or not
it became LTS release, and this is good.
You know that we released 2014.2 in June 2015 so it makes ~8 month ago.
It's time to raise buzz again on us!

New spin could have a new look, maybe this one (?):
https://discourse-static.openmandriva.org/uploads/default/87a2ff7addaf4cce1de1859062f95d85d7dddafe
Here I'm showing this design in my cooker:
https://discourse.openmandriva.org/t/a-me-mi-piace-dark/228

For the nickname/codename I really suggest Rock and Roll edition
(OpenMandriva Lx 2 R'n'R Edition) [1] that is Rock as in
solid/stable/reliable, and Roll as in fully updated to the latest and
brightest sw and features.

[1] And here it comes the consequent merged topic:

- "OpenMandriva 2" to replace OpenMandriva 2014.x
I suggest to please do consider the proposal. Better if you agree, imho :)
It's just PR so Kate (if she agrees) and me can make the job. Of
course other friends will help if they're willing to.
I was promised by Colin that this topic would be discussed at Council
meeting but never put in agenda. Yes, I know there are so many items
to discuss right now...

Conclusions.
Q1: It makes sense to talk about 2014 release update, or your (@devs]
plan is to abandon 2014/KDE4 ?
Q2: If the first positive case, shall I start a Loomio for public name change ?


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From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-02-05 19:02 GMT+01:00
To: Maik Wagner <maiktapwagner at aol.com>

[...]
My point is to release a new ISO (let's call it for now 2014.3 so to
make things more clear) for the 2014.x series.
Many users, around everyone actually, are saying it is rock solid and
reliable so we should take advantage of it for strengthening and
enlarge our audience/community.

Re 2014.x -> OMLx 2 is just public name changing like it was (wisely &
successfully) done for OMLx instead of 2015.x
I believe it's odd if not kind of ridiculous to publish a new release
in year 2016 with an already obsolete name (2014.x) :P
Anyway all this is subject to the willing of support 2014.x still for some time.


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From: Kate Lebedeff <kate at lebedeff.co.uk>
Date: 2016-02-05 19:01 GMT+01:00

Hands up for all suggested!
Thank you for raising topics Cristina


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From: Tomasz Gajc <tpgxyz at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-02-08 11:16 GMT+01:00

I think that OpenMandriva Lx 2 is a good idea to do a release for this product.
This needs couple of thasks to be managed before release:
1. Rename to Lx 2 - medium effort (3-4 days, with testing),
omdv-build-iso needs to be adapted too
2. Update X11 stack - big effort (around 1-2 weeks with testing)
3. Others - medium effort (1-2 weeks with testing) - building ISO,
testing installation, overall integrity of product etc.
3. Need a dedicated person who will lead the tasks and take care of
doing a release

Putting focus on Lx 2 meas that Lx 3 is moving forward into future.


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From: Tomasz Gajc <tpgxyz at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-02-08 12:06 GMT+01:00

First let's answer the question. What is the main goal  - Lx 3 or Lx 2 ?


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From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-02-08 15:49 GMT+01:00

Thanks Tomasz for comment and list of tasks + ETA from developers
point of view, we need it in order to have a clear view before taking
decisions.

> Putting focus on Lx 2 meas that Lx 3 is moving forward into future.

> First let's answer the question. What is the main goal  - Lx 3 or Lx 2 ?

Agree with the questions.
Could we all discuss the topic and then get an overall plan?
Do you think we should add Crisb in the loop?


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From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-02-08 20:54 GMT+01:00

Or maybe this is the very first question to answer:

2016-02-05 18:09 GMT+01:00 rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>:
>
> Q1: It makes sense to talk about 2014 release update, or your (@devs]
> plan is to abandon 2014/KDE4 ?
>

Please reply frankly :)

Aside: one point for keep support for 2014.x is we can "brand" and
advertise it as LTS, so it might be:
- OpenMandriva Lx2 LTS R'n'R Edition
- OpenMandriva LTS R'n'R Edition
- ......
or, more "acronymized" :)
- OMLx2 LTS R'n'R Edition
- OMLx LTS R'n'R Edition

or the most acronymized in the world :P
- OMLx LTS R'n'R Ed.

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Best regards,
Cristina



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