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Hi Efrem,<br>
<br>
but, you can't speak for all gamers, because on the other hand it's
a full support on the hardware<br>
and therewith a high performance of the graphic card from the
manufacturer ,<br>
for me it's no matter, if it's closed source or not, because, it mus
fully working <br>
also with the newest cards of nvidia .. and therewith want i
certainty and do not raise <br>
everything what it is open source, because, the manufacturer have to
give me a <br>
support for a really well graphic-card and therewith it is he in the
duty for give me <br>
a good support and well drivers.. and if the drivers from the
manufacturer open source, <br>
it is an other part because secrets of company, because otherwise
they could give <br>
her hardware construction immediately AMD/Ati .. this is the other
part of open source<br>
what i am understand..and admit/concedes nvidia in this part. <br>
And in future want i am well real nvidia-drivers and the further
support <br>
for better drivers and customized driver for my high performance
nvidia cards's<br>
otherwise i can me buy a noname crap and piss it on my computer <br>
for just have a shit display . Nvidia is in the obligation for me to
give a very well support<br>
otherwise i don't need buy a nvidia product, therefore have i payed
! <br>
And as Alpha-tester of games, need i am also something.<br>
and as Gamer also..<br>
but you may be a developer, so, develop your nouveau drivers if you
want, <br>
but i want take further the original drivers from the hardware
developer/manufacturer .. <br>
and concedes nvidia her company secrets, where they make her money
every day <br>
for exist further to able for manufacturing further really fast and
well running Gamercards.<br>
<br>
But don't understand me wrong, the thing from MS, 1000000~ or more
Copy's <br>
and each copy 150$'lar's, be slightly unreasonably and then the
code...<br>
so closed ..this politic, it's imho really wrong .. what's there
hide, this it's also, <br>
why i am supporting Open Source Systems . And the whole Software,
Programs, <br>
it's easy better for working together as just have closed source,
also for trust and <br>
know to be the programs really okey and it is nothing hide..<br>
<br>
but it is to take, to be nvidia make some spy things, <br>
do i am no more buy nvidia cards and look for an alternative..<br>
This is also a what certainly is .<br>
But up to now, it is not like so and <br>
Nvidia have to give me correct and well support and good running
hardwaredrivers.<br>
<br>
Have a nice day and happy programming Efrem :)<br>
<br>
best regards<br>
Blacky<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 12.02.2016 um 23:20 schrieb Efrem
Mc:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">I agree with your statement. </p>
<p dir="ltr">We will still be feature complete as in this case ;
NVIDIA will continue to develop new drivers to fix reported
problems. They react quickly to software defects. I'm not
using non-free Nvidia driver as a gamer but a software developer
for CUDA/OpenACC for HPC. I rather develop on Linux.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Furthermore, we need some support if it is related to
our build process as we can not be responsible for non-free
drivers. We should still look into it if there are dependencies
or conflicts and mark them as tasks. This is a suggestion. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards, <br>
Efrem McCrimon <br>
</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 12, 2016 6:15 AM, "Maik Wagner"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:maiktapwagner@aol.com">maiktapwagner@aol.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote id="Cite_2971423" class="gmail_quote cite"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello everyone,<br>
<br>
As far as Bugzilla is concerned I originally labeled it as
"Task". The idea is that developers can pick if they want to
tackle this task or not. I like the free software driver and I
am happy with it on my office system but for games etc. the
proprietary driver delivers better 3D performance.<br>
<br>
As there have been recent efforts in supporting games in a
blog posting we should definetely have the proprietary driver
supported as an option and I thank you for the work you are
putting into this.<br>
<br>
I have been told that a Beta means "feature complete". If this
feature is not implemented the distribution would we feature
incomplete and we in this case can't call it Beta.<br>
<br>
<br>
Maik<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 12.02.2016 um 06:57 schrieb Efrem Mc:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Hi QA,<br>
I have a file that already contains these blacklist settings
and they seem to be ignored. Somehow nouveau is getting
installed and override the blacklist. I think it is getting
loaded during the boot process such as initrd.<br>
<br>
I agree with Mark and state this as "Extras" or something
equivalent. The idea is to use free software but in this
case it required the non-free driver to support development
using the GPU card.<br>
<br>
<br>
I did some research and found the following:<br>
<br>
the driver nouveau get loaded during "initrd", also known as
"initramfs"<br>
<br>
<br>
This behavior is nothing new as it has been reported before
(see) <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1263523"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1263523</a>.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/256.44/README/commonproblems.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/256.44/README/commonproblems.html</a><br>
<br>
Actually the NVIDIA driver installation creates the
blacklist file in the proper place in /etc/modprobe.d/. If
nvidia-installer detects Nouveau is in use by the system, it
will offer to create such a modprobe configuration file to
disable Nouveau.<br>
<br>
This is what the drivers creates and it's location.<br>
<br>
cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf #
generated by nvidia-installer blacklist nouveau options
nouveau modeset=0<br>
The installation notes also stated to created this if
needed:<br>
<br>
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf<br>
<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/index.html#runfile-nouveau"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/index.html#runfile-nouveau</a><br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/pdf/CUDA_Installation_Guide_Linux.pdf"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/pdf/CUDA_Installation_Guide_Linux.pdf</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Efrem<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 11.02.2016 um 00:47 schrieb Blackcrack:<br>
<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> please add on the hardwareinstall of the nvidia
drivers this<br>
> lines in the installscript :<br>
><br>
> echo 'blacklist nouveau' >>
/etc/modprobe.d/disable-nouveau.conf<br>
> echo 'nouveau modeset=0' >>
/etc/modprobe.d/disable-nouveau.conf<br>
source<br>
:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://kaischroed.wordpress.com/howto-install-nvidia-driver-on-fedora-replacing-nouveau/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kaischroed.wordpress.com/howto-install-nvidia-driver-on-fedora-replacing-nouveau/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I put this info in Bug number 1512 in Bugzilla to keep track
of this issue. Thanks for pointing it out.<br>
<br>
Maik<br>
<br>
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