[om-qa] XORG Nvidia 352.30

Blackcrack blackcrack at blackysgate.de
Sat Feb 13 00:14:00 EST 2016


Hi Efrem,

but, you can't speak for all gamers, because on the other hand it's a 
full support on the hardware
and therewith a high performance of the graphic card from the manufacturer ,
for me it's no matter, if it's closed source or not, because, it mus 
fully working
also with the newest cards of nvidia .. and therewith want i certainty 
and do not raise
everything what it is open source, because, the manufacturer have to 
give me a
support for a really well graphic-card and therewith it is he in the 
duty for give me
a good support and well drivers.. and if the drivers from the 
manufacturer open source,
it is an other part because secrets of company, because otherwise they 
could give
her hardware construction immediately AMD/Ati .. this is the other part 
of open source
what i am understand..and admit/concedes nvidia in this part.
And in future want i am well real nvidia-drivers and the further support
for better drivers and customized driver for my high performance nvidia 
cards's
otherwise i can me buy a noname crap and piss it on my computer
for just have a shit display . Nvidia is in the obligation for me to 
give a very well support
otherwise i don't need buy a nvidia product, therefore have i payed !
And as Alpha-tester of games, need i am also something.
and as Gamer also..
but you may be a developer, so, develop your nouveau drivers if you want,
but i want take further the original drivers from the hardware 
developer/manufacturer ..
and concedes nvidia her company secrets, where they make her money every 
day
for exist further to able for manufacturing further really fast and well 
running Gamercards.

But don't understand me wrong, the thing from MS, 1000000~ or more Copy's
and each copy 150$'lar's, be slightly unreasonably and then the code...
so closed ..this politic, it's imho really wrong .. what's there hide, 
this it's also,
why i am supporting Open Source Systems . And the whole Software, Programs,
it's easy better for working together as just have closed source, also 
for trust and
know to be the programs really okey and it is nothing hide..

but it is to take, to be nvidia make some spy things,
do i am no more buy nvidia cards and look for an alternative..
This is also a what certainly is .
But up to now, it is not like so and
Nvidia have to give me correct and well support and good running 
hardwaredrivers.

Have a nice day and happy programming Efrem :)

best regards
Blacky


Am 12.02.2016 um 23:20 schrieb Efrem Mc:
>
> I agree with your statement.
>
> We will still be feature complete as in this case ; NVIDIA will 
> continue to develop new drivers to fix reported problems.  They react 
> quickly to software defects.  I'm not using non-free Nvidia driver as 
> a gamer but a software developer for CUDA/OpenACC for HPC. I rather 
> develop on Linux.
>
> Furthermore, we need some support if it is related to our build 
> process as we can not be responsible for non-free drivers. We should 
> still look into it if there are dependencies or conflicts and mark 
> them as tasks. This is a suggestion.
>
> Regards,
> Efrem McCrimon
>
> On Feb 12, 2016 6:15 AM, "Maik Wagner" <maiktapwagner at aol.com 
> <mailto:maiktapwagner at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello everyone,
>
>     As far as Bugzilla is concerned I originally labeled it as "Task".
>     The idea is that developers can pick if they want to tackle this
>     task or not. I like the free software driver and I am happy with
>     it on my office system but for games etc. the proprietary driver
>     delivers better 3D performance.
>
>     As there have been recent efforts in supporting games in a blog
>     posting we should definetely have the proprietary driver supported
>     as an option and I thank you for the work you are putting into this.
>
>     I have been told that a Beta means "feature complete". If this
>     feature is not implemented the distribution would we feature
>     incomplete and we in this case can't call it Beta.
>
>
>     Maik
>
>
>     Am 12.02.2016 um 06:57 schrieb Efrem Mc:
>
>
>         Hi QA,
>         I have a file that already contains these blacklist settings
>         and they seem to be ignored. Somehow nouveau is getting
>         installed and override the blacklist.  I think it is getting
>         loaded during the boot process such as initrd.
>
>         I agree with Mark and state this as "Extras" or something
>         equivalent.  The idea is to use free software but in this case
>         it required the non-free driver to support development using
>         the GPU card.
>
>
>         I did some research and found the following:
>
>         the driver nouveau get loaded during "initrd", also known as
>         "initramfs"
>
>
>         This behavior is nothing new as it has been reported before
>         (see) https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1263523.
>
>         ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/256.44/README/commonproblems.html
>
>         Actually the NVIDIA driver installation creates the blacklist
>         file in the proper place in /etc/modprobe.d/.  If
>         nvidia-installer detects Nouveau is in use by the system, it
>         will offer to create such a modprobe configuration file to
>         disable Nouveau.
>
>         This is what the drivers creates and it's location.
>
>         cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf #
>         generated by nvidia-installer blacklist nouveau options
>         nouveau modeset=0
>         The installation notes also stated to created this if needed:
>
>         /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf
>
>
>         http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/index.html#runfile-nouveau
>
>         http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/pdf/CUDA_Installation_Guide_Linux.pdf
>
>
>         Regards,
>
>         Efrem
>
>
>         Am 11.02.2016 um 00:47 schrieb Blackcrack:
>
>             >
>             > Hi,
>             >
>             > please add on the hardwareinstall of the nvidia drivers this
>             > lines in the installscript :
>             >
>             > echo 'blacklist nouveau' >>
>         /etc/modprobe.d/disable-nouveau.conf
>             > echo 'nouveau modeset=0' >>
>         /etc/modprobe.d/disable-nouveau.conf
>             source
>            
>         :https://kaischroed.wordpress.com/howto-install-nvidia-driver-on-fedora-replacing-nouveau/
>
>
>
>         I put this info in Bug number 1512 in Bugzilla to keep track
>         of this issue. Thanks for pointing it out.
>
>         Maik
>
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