[om-council] i586
Kate Lebedeff
kate at lebedeff.co.uk
Mon Apr 25 05:30:45 EDT 2016
What do you think guys and gal, when is the right time to raise i586 topic?
Imo we should make it clear that we simply lack resources. We _do_wish_ to continue support, but then we need XX volunteers with YY skills and call for them to join.
Unless it happens till ZZ time - we drop support
There is a disadvantage here. If volunteers do not come - this will be all bad PR for us
> On 23Apr, 2016, at 12:23, rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2016-04-23 1:10 GMT+02:00 Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <bero at lindev.ch>:
>>
>> At the same time, we haven't been able to pull in many new contributors to
>> take their places. I think that's because we're invisible to the outside
>> world, and most people don't want to work on something nobody uses.
>>
>
> This is the point I wish to stress.
> Timing matters. Or we're ready with OM3 tomorrow, or without support
> or refresh/respin for OM2 the risk is to disappear.
> From PR (**my field**) POV OMLx2 respin release could do the trick for
> increasing (better: getting again) the buzz around our project.
>
>
>> And to make things worse, this sort of thing is a self-amplifying problem:
>> We have less manpower, but at the same time people expect us to do more and
>> more (this isn't meant as an attack as people who have been calling on us to
>> do more - but how can we, despite a small and shrinking team, ramp up our
>> efforts and: support another CPU type, keep supporting an old release, add
>> another desktop, ...?)
>> This doesn't exactly help, and being screamed at when saying we won't do
>> something doesn't exactly help keep people motivated. (With the "screamed
>> at", I'm not talking about people here doing the screaming - but some people
>> on mailing lists don't really understand why we won't commit to doing some
>> things that they thought made Mandrake great back in its days).
>>
>
> Imho we need to be clear and not to be ashamed to say we're a small team.
> As said before we should be proud of our really great work even in
> such hard condition.
>
> Another thing: be decisive! Strong in our positions.
> If we as a project/team agreed on taking any decision, then it's like
> that. Because we discussed it, considered every option, and ended to
> that outcome and no other - until/unless the situation gets better.
>
> Do you """want""" a f... support for i586? Move your bottoms and contribute!
> Do you """need""" this or that? Be ready to join and help!
>
> We have a saying here, telling "Armiamoci e partite" I cannot find the
> translation in English, you can read it like a person exhorting his
> soldiers to pick the weapons and prepare for the battle together, but
> then: they will leave for the war and he remains at home peacefully :P
>
> This is to say that [quoting JCL] who does, decides.
> It's nice and wise to listen to community, yes, but we are not paid
> employees, we are free to decide what to do and what we *cannot* do.
> Or also what we simply don't like to do.
> It could avoid some burnout too.
> I'd rather say also if/when time of decisions about anything will
> come, keep an eye on our own interest, that is on what may be/become
> source of some money/support/whatever (you got what I mean) for the
> present and in perspective for our future.
>
> Sorry if this may look kind of drastic, but it's matter of survival :)
> Keep calm and take it easy. it's ready when it's ready.
>
> Let's make our things without any rush, let's take our time to do the
> things we like the way we like because we do it for our fun and
> enjoyment.
> Otherwise people are going to lose their motivation and say Goodbye!.
> Often they don't say goodbye even... :)
>
>
>
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> Cristina
>
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