[om-council] Meeting today?

Kate Lebedeff kate at lebedeff.co.uk
Thu Apr 7 17:36:33 EDT 2016


Dear Cristina

Sure I will put to next meeting’s agenda

Actual and very good topics imo


> On 7Apr, 2016, at 13:44, rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 2016-04-07 11:05 GMT+02:00 Kate Lebedeff <kate at lebedeff.co.uk>:
>> 
>> If anybody has a topic for the meeting, please give a shout
>> 
> 
> I have an argument I'd like to be advanced :)
> If not today, in next C-meeting, thank you.
> 
> 
> 1. Topic rename OMLx 2014.x into "OpenMandriva 2" - OMLx 2.
> Preparatory for topic 2
> 
> 
> 2. Topic respin OMLx 2 KDE4.
> Preparatory for topic 3
> 
> Our *stable* release is still OMLx 2 (2014.2, June 2015). It became
> LTS release, so around one year later it's time for new release
> update.
> I have been told to raise this topic after OM3 beta, so I punctually do.
> 
> 
> 3. Topic project OpenMandriva Lx 2 R'n'R Edition
> 
> For your convenience, I forward here below the relevant parts from our
> previous conversation.
> 
> 
> Well, I would have a last 4th one still in draft in my mind that is
> project OpenMandriva Lx 2 Plasma5...
> ...But I don't want to scare you too much :P Also, I presume this is
> not the right time.
> Please take it just as a crazy rough idea :)
> 
> 
> ======================================================
> 
> Forwarded conversation
> Subject: Joking... but not so much
> ------------------------
> 
> From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
> Date: 2015-12-31 16:45 GMT+01:00
> 
> Hello,
> 
> OpenMandriva Lx 2 R'n'R Edition
> 
> https://discourse.openmandriva.org/t/lunga-ed-impervia-e-la-strada/212/18
> 
> << [...] penso che una release con kde4 in futuro sarà necessaria(una
> Rock Edition per intenderci :wink: ) perchè prima che si arrivi ad una
> versione stabile di plasma ne passa del tempo >>
> 
> << Una release con un DM finalmente stabile, completo ed
> affidabile(KDE4) superaggiornata e EFI compatibile >>
> 
> ~Translation:
> 
> I think we'll need a KDE4 release in next future (a Rock Edition)
> since it will take much time until a stable Plasma version can be
> released.
> 
> A release with stable DM, complete and reliable, fully updated and EFI
> compatible >>
> 
> Sometimes funny ideas pop up, and then you may realize they're not so bizarre.
> 
> 
> ****************************************************
> From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
> Date: 2016-02-05 18:09 GMT+01:00
> 
> While we're managing to get OpenMandriva 3 Plasma out, this is a kind remind.
> 
> - OpenMandriva 2014 new release update.
> It would simply - I guess - be a new spin featuring all updated
> software. 2014 series is still our stable release atm. Willing or not
> it became LTS release, and this is good.
> You know that we released 2014.2 in June 2015 so it makes ~8 month ago.
> It's time to raise buzz again on us!
> 
> New spin could have a new look, maybe this one (?):
> https://discourse-static.openmandriva.org/uploads/default/87a2ff7addaf4cce1de1859062f95d85d7dddafe
> Here I'm showing this design in my cooker:
> https://discourse.openmandriva.org/t/a-me-mi-piace-dark/228
> 
> For the nickname/codename I really suggest Rock and Roll edition
> (OpenMandriva Lx 2 R'n'R Edition) [1] that is Rock as in
> solid/stable/reliable, and Roll as in fully updated to the latest and
> brightest sw and features.
> 
> [1] And here it comes the consequent merged topic:
> 
> - "OpenMandriva 2" to replace OpenMandriva 2014.x
> I suggest to please do consider the proposal. Better if you agree, imho :)
> It's just PR so Kate (if she agrees) and me can make the job. Of
> course other friends will help if they're willing to.
> I was promised by Colin that this topic would be discussed at Council
> meeting but never put in agenda. Yes, I know there are so many items
> to discuss right now...
> 
> Conclusions.
> Q1: It makes sense to talk about 2014 release update, or your (@devs]
> plan is to abandon 2014/KDE4 ?
> Q2: If the first positive case, shall I start a Loomio for public name change ?
> 
> 
> ****************************************************
> From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
> Date: 2016-02-05 19:02 GMT+01:00
> To: Maik Wagner <maiktapwagner at aol.com>
> 
> [...]
> My point is to release a new ISO (let's call it for now 2014.3 so to
> make things more clear) for the 2014.x series.
> Many users, around everyone actually, are saying it is rock solid and
> reliable so we should take advantage of it for strengthening and
> enlarge our audience/community.
> 
> Re 2014.x -> OMLx 2 is just public name changing like it was (wisely &
> successfully) done for OMLx instead of 2015.x
> I believe it's odd if not kind of ridiculous to publish a new release
> in year 2016 with an already obsolete name (2014.x) :P
> Anyway all this is subject to the willing of support 2014.x still for some time.
> 
> 
> ****************************************************
> From: Kate Lebedeff <kate at lebedeff.co.uk>
> Date: 2016-02-05 19:01 GMT+01:00
> 
> Hands up for all suggested!
> Thank you for raising topics Cristina
> 
> 
> ****************************************************
> From: Tomasz Gajc <tpgxyz at gmail.com>
> Date: 2016-02-08 11:16 GMT+01:00
> 
> I think that OpenMandriva Lx 2 is a good idea to do a release for this product.
> This needs couple of thasks to be managed before release:
> 1. Rename to Lx 2 - medium effort (3-4 days, with testing),
> omdv-build-iso needs to be adapted too
> 2. Update X11 stack - big effort (around 1-2 weeks with testing)
> 3. Others - medium effort (1-2 weeks with testing) - building ISO,
> testing installation, overall integrity of product etc.
> 3. Need a dedicated person who will lead the tasks and take care of
> doing a release
> 
> Putting focus on Lx 2 meas that Lx 3 is moving forward into future.
> 
> 
> ****************************************************
> From: Tomasz Gajc <tpgxyz at gmail.com>
> Date: 2016-02-08 12:06 GMT+01:00
> 
> First let's answer the question. What is the main goal  - Lx 3 or Lx 2 ?
> 
> 
> ****************************************************
> From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
> Date: 2016-02-08 15:49 GMT+01:00
> 
> Thanks Tomasz for comment and list of tasks + ETA from developers
> point of view, we need it in order to have a clear view before taking
> decisions.
> 
>> Putting focus on Lx 2 meas that Lx 3 is moving forward into future.
> 
>> First let's answer the question. What is the main goal  - Lx 3 or Lx 2 ?
> 
> Agree with the questions.
> Could we all discuss the topic and then get an overall plan?
> Do you think we should add Crisb in the loop?
> 
> 
> ****************************************************
> From: rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>
> Date: 2016-02-08 20:54 GMT+01:00
> 
> Or maybe this is the very first question to answer:
> 
> 2016-02-05 18:09 GMT+01:00 rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Q1: It makes sense to talk about 2014 release update, or your (@devs]
>> plan is to abandon 2014/KDE4 ?
>> 
> 
> Please reply frankly :)
> 
> Aside: one point for keep support for 2014.x is we can "brand" and
> advertise it as LTS, so it might be:
> - OpenMandriva Lx2 LTS R'n'R Edition
> - OpenMandriva LTS R'n'R Edition
> - ......
> or, more "acronymized" :)
> - OMLx2 LTS R'n'R Edition
> - OMLx LTS R'n'R Edition
> 
> or the most acronymized in the world :P
> - OMLx LTS R'n'R Ed.
> 
> ======================================================
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ____________________
> Best regards,
> Cristina
> 
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