[om-infra] Issues about aol/compuserve customers "FWD: Bounce action notification"

Robert Xu robxu9 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 29 15:15:34 EDT 2016


As a general notice, this should provide some context:
https://tidbits.com/article/14843

tl;dr not much we can do.

On 27 March 2016 at 10:52, Jean-Claude Vanier <jclvanier at gmail.com> wrote:

> I saw this suggestion but wasn't not sure we can do it because I
> wasn't sure of the real effect of this change.
> Especially, if we exchange the "From" and "Reply to" headers, the
> behaviour of list might change in a way which could disturb the users.
> Anyway, I propose to apply the change to the infra list first and
> let's see what happens.
>
> There are two changes we can do: "Munge From" and "Wrap Message".
> If nobody objects, let's do some tests with "Munge From" first.
> Is everyone ok?
>
> 2016-03-26 18:52 GMT+01:00 Colin Close <itchka at compuserve.com>:
> > Hi JC,
> > I could use a redirect if gmail will do this and assuming this doesn't
> break any other ML functionality.
> >
> >
> > Reading the notice it says..
> >
> > For mailing lists we recommend configuring reply behavior to fill the
> From line with the mailing list's address rather than the sender's and put
> the actual user / sender address into the Reply-To: line. Please also note
> that current "auto unsubscribe" logic based upon bounces might be too rigid
> until this change has been in place for a while.
> >
> > Is there some reason why we can't do this? I would have thought it would
> be in our interest to comply because presumably other major mail
> distributors  will start doing the same thing as AOL.
> >
> > Best,
> > Colin
> >
> >
> >
> > On Saturday 26 Mar 2016 11:19:28 you wrote:
> >> Hi Colin,
> >>
> >> we always get this kind of message.
> >> It seems that your provider doesn't accept the messages sent by our
> mailman.
> >> I don't know what to do exactly.
> >> One workaround could be using another email address that will redirect
> the
> >> messages to your actual address.
> >> Wdyt?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Note: another bounce message said:
> >>
> >> >Final-Recipient: rfc822; itchka at compuserve.com
> >> >Original-Recipient: rfc822;itchka at compuserve.com
> >> >Action: failed
> >> >Status: 5.2.1
> >> >Remote-MTA: dns; mailin-02.mx.aol.com
> >> >Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 521 5.2.1 :  (DMARC:AOL) This message failed
> DMARC
> >> >    Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit
> >> >
> >>
> http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: <mailman at ml.openmandriva.org>
> >> Date: 2016-03-26 11:00 GMT+01:00
> >> Subject: Bounce action notification
> >> To: om-infra-owner at ml.openmandriva.org
> >>
> >>
> >> This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice:
> >>
> >>     List:       OM-Infra
> >>     Member:     itchka at compuserve.com
> >>     Action:     Subscription bounce score incremented.
> >>     Reason:     Excessive or fatal bounces.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The triggering bounce notice is attached below.
> >>
> >> Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at
> >> mailman at ml.openmandriva.org.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> >> From: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON at mailchannels.net>
> >> To: om-infra-bounces at ml.openmandriva.org
> >> Cc:
> >> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:59:59 +0000 (UTC)
> >> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> >> This is the mail system at host relay.mailchannels.net.
> >>
> >> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
> >> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
> >>
> >> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
> >>
> >> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> >> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
> >>
> >>                    The mail system
> >>
> >> <itchka at compuserve.com>: host mailin-01.mx.aol.com[64.12.88.131] said:
> 521
> >>     5.2.1 :  AOL will not accept delivery of this message. (in reply to
> end
> >> of
> >>     DATA command)
> >>
> >> Final-Recipient: rfc822; itchka at compuserve.com
> >> Original-Recipient: rfc822;itchka at compuserve.com
> >> Action: failed
> >> Status: 5.2.1
> >> Remote-MTA: dns; mailin-01.mx.aol.com
> >> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 521 5.2.1 :  AOL will not accept delivery of this
> >>     message.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> >> From: vzdump backup tool <root at 62-210-99-128.online.net>
> >> To: om-infra at ml.openmandriva.org
> >> Cc:
> >> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 00:20:52 +0100 (CET)
> >> Subject: [om-infra] vzdump backup status (sd-61134.dedibox.fr) : backup
> >> failed
> >> VMID NAME STATUS TIME SIZE FILENAME
> >> 600 ruby.openmandriva.org FAILED 00:05:50 command 'vzctl --skiplock
> chkpnt
> >> 600 --suspend' failed: exit code 16
> >> TOTAL 00:05:50 0KB
> >>
> >>
> >> Detailed backup logs:
> >>
> >> vzdump 600 --quiet 1 --mode snapshot --mailto
> >> om-infra at ml.openmandriva.org --compress gzip --storage local
> >>
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: Starting Backup of VM 600 (openvz)
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: CTID 600 exist mounted running
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: status = running
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: mode failure - unable to dump into snapshot
> >> (use option --dumpdir)
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: trying 'suspend' mode instead
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: backup mode: suspend
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: ionice priority: 7
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: starting first sync
> >> /var/lib/vz/private/600/ to
> >> /var/lib/vz/dump/vzdump-openvz-600-2016_03_26-00_15_01.tmp
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Number of files: 42643
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Number of files transferred: 34630
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total file size: 11287889239 bytes
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total transferred file size: 11274160365
> bytes
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Literal data: 11274161705 bytes
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Matched data: 0 bytes
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list size: 1020246
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list generation time: 0.026 seconds
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total bytes sent: 11278043246
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total bytes received: 685706
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: sent 11278043246 bytes  received 685706
> >> bytes  32644656.88 bytes/sec
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: total size is 11287889239  speedup is 1.00
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: first sync finished (345 seconds)
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: suspend vm
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Setting up checkpoint...
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO:    suspend...
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Can not suspend container: Resource
> >> temporarily unavailable
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
> >> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
> >> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
> >> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Checkpointing failed
> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:51 ERROR: Backup of VM 600 failed - command 'vzctl
> >> --skiplock chkpnt 600 --suspend' failed: exit code 16
> >>
> >>
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cheers, Robert :: rxu.io
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