[om-infra] Issues about aol/compuserve customers "FWD: Bounce action notification"
Jean-Claude Vanier
jclvanier at gmail.com
Wed Apr 6 13:26:37 EDT 2016
I'm afraid you are right, Robert.
Anyway, since nobody objects, I will test the "munge from" option for this ML.
This will start from the next email to this ML.
2016-03-29 21:15 GMT+02:00 Robert Xu <robxu9 at gmail.com>:
> As a general notice, this should provide some context:
> https://tidbits.com/article/14843
>
> tl;dr not much we can do.
>
> On 27 March 2016 at 10:52, Jean-Claude Vanier <jclvanier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I saw this suggestion but wasn't not sure we can do it because I
>> wasn't sure of the real effect of this change.
>> Especially, if we exchange the "From" and "Reply to" headers, the
>> behaviour of list might change in a way which could disturb the users.
>> Anyway, I propose to apply the change to the infra list first and
>> let's see what happens.
>>
>> There are two changes we can do: "Munge From" and "Wrap Message".
>> If nobody objects, let's do some tests with "Munge From" first.
>> Is everyone ok?
>>
>> 2016-03-26 18:52 GMT+01:00 Colin Close <itchka at compuserve.com>:
>> > Hi JC,
>> > I could use a redirect if gmail will do this and assuming this doesn't
>> > break any other ML functionality.
>> >
>> >
>> > Reading the notice it says..
>> >
>> > For mailing lists we recommend configuring reply behavior to fill the
>> > From line with the mailing list's address rather than the sender's and put
>> > the actual user / sender address into the Reply-To: line. Please also note
>> > that current "auto unsubscribe" logic based upon bounces might be too rigid
>> > until this change has been in place for a while.
>> >
>> > Is there some reason why we can't do this? I would have thought it would
>> > be in our interest to comply because presumably other major mail
>> > distributors will start doing the same thing as AOL.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Colin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Saturday 26 Mar 2016 11:19:28 you wrote:
>> >> Hi Colin,
>> >>
>> >> we always get this kind of message.
>> >> It seems that your provider doesn't accept the messages sent by our
>> >> mailman.
>> >> I don't know what to do exactly.
>> >> One workaround could be using another email address that will redirect
>> >> the
>> >> messages to your actual address.
>> >> Wdyt?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Note: another bounce message said:
>> >>
>> >> >Final-Recipient: rfc822; itchka at compuserve.com
>> >> >Original-Recipient: rfc822;itchka at compuserve.com
>> >> >Action: failed
>> >> >Status: 5.2.1
>> >> >Remote-MTA: dns; mailin-02.mx.aol.com
>> >> >Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 521 5.2.1 : (DMARC:AOL) This message failed
>> >> > DMARC
>> >> > Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: <mailman at ml.openmandriva.org>
>> >> Date: 2016-03-26 11:00 GMT+01:00
>> >> Subject: Bounce action notification
>> >> To: om-infra-owner at ml.openmandriva.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice:
>> >>
>> >> List: OM-Infra
>> >> Member: itchka at compuserve.com
>> >> Action: Subscription bounce score incremented.
>> >> Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The triggering bounce notice is attached below.
>> >>
>> >> Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at
>> >> mailman at ml.openmandriva.org.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Message transféré ----------
>> >> From: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON at mailchannels.net>
>> >> To: om-infra-bounces at ml.openmandriva.org
>> >> Cc:
>> >> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:59:59 +0000 (UTC)
>> >> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
>> >> This is the mail system at host relay.mailchannels.net.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
>> >> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>> >>
>> >> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>> >>
>> >> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
>> >> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
>> >>
>> >> The mail system
>> >>
>> >> <itchka at compuserve.com>: host mailin-01.mx.aol.com[64.12.88.131] said:
>> >> 521
>> >> 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of this message. (in reply to
>> >> end
>> >> of
>> >> DATA command)
>> >>
>> >> Final-Recipient: rfc822; itchka at compuserve.com
>> >> Original-Recipient: rfc822;itchka at compuserve.com
>> >> Action: failed
>> >> Status: 5.2.1
>> >> Remote-MTA: dns; mailin-01.mx.aol.com
>> >> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 521 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of
>> >> this
>> >> message.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Message transféré ----------
>> >> From: vzdump backup tool <root at 62-210-99-128.online.net>
>> >> To: om-infra at ml.openmandriva.org
>> >> Cc:
>> >> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 00:20:52 +0100 (CET)
>> >> Subject: [om-infra] vzdump backup status (sd-61134.dedibox.fr) : backup
>> >> failed
>> >> VMID NAME STATUS TIME SIZE FILENAME
>> >> 600 ruby.openmandriva.org FAILED 00:05:50 command 'vzctl --skiplock
>> >> chkpnt
>> >> 600 --suspend' failed: exit code 16
>> >> TOTAL 00:05:50 0KB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Detailed backup logs:
>> >>
>> >> vzdump 600 --quiet 1 --mode snapshot --mailto
>> >> om-infra at ml.openmandriva.org --compress gzip --storage local
>> >>
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: Starting Backup of VM 600 (openvz)
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: CTID 600 exist mounted running
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: status = running
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: mode failure - unable to dump into snapshot
>> >> (use option --dumpdir)
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: trying 'suspend' mode instead
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: backup mode: suspend
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: ionice priority: 7
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:15:01 INFO: starting first sync
>> >> /var/lib/vz/private/600/ to
>> >> /var/lib/vz/dump/vzdump-openvz-600-2016_03_26-00_15_01.tmp
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Number of files: 42643
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Number of files transferred: 34630
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total file size: 11287889239 bytes
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total transferred file size: 11274160365
>> >> bytes
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Literal data: 11274161705 bytes
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Matched data: 0 bytes
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list size: 1020246
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list generation time: 0.026 seconds
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total bytes sent: 11278043246
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Total bytes received: 685706
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: sent 11278043246 bytes received 685706
>> >> bytes 32644656.88 bytes/sec
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: total size is 11287889239 speedup is 1.00
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: first sync finished (345 seconds)
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: suspend vm
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: Setting up checkpoint...
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:46 INFO: suspend...
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Can not suspend container: Resource
>> >> temporarily unavailable
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
>> >> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
>> >> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: foreign process 19176/739366(vzctl)
>> >> inside CT (e.g. vzctl enter or vzctl exec).
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Error: suspend is impossible now.
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:49 INFO: Checkpointing failed
>> >> 600: Mar 26 00:20:51 ERROR: Backup of VM 600 failed - command 'vzctl
>> >> --skiplock chkpnt 600 --suspend' failed: exit code 16
>> >>
>> >>
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