[om-council] An opportunity for us with low-income people? (was Re: i586)
Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin
nobodydead at gmail.com
Tue Apr 26 12:26:16 EDT 2016
>That's exciting. Poor people includes schools and educational area.
Right now i'm adopting linux for robotics class in school, here is no 32
bit ix86 hardware
and i'm doing it with CubieBoard CC-A80 - ARMv7 cpu, it's cheaper than
intel.
It's time to drop ix86
2016-04-26 16:20 GMT+00:00 Jean-Claude Vanier <jclvanier at gmail.com>:
> That's exciting. Poor people includes schools and educational area.
> If we are able to build a serious documentation file we could dream
> about some grants from some organization (to be determined).
>
> 2016-04-26 17:47 GMT+02:00 Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin <
> nobodydead at gmail.com>:
> > agreed
> >
> > 2016-04-26 15:46 GMT+00:00 Tomasz Gajc <tpgxyz at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Fact is that amount of people using 5$ or 9$ systems on sigle chip are
> >> growing while amount of people using ix86 is decreasing.
> >> We must follow a trend and support those platforms which has future.
> >>
> >> 2016-04-25 14:02 GMT+02:00 Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <bero at lindev.ch>:
> >>>
> >>> On 2016-04-25 12:22, Tomasz Gajc wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> People with low income, buys Raspberry Pi 0,1 or 2
> >>>>
> >>>> See only 5$ for a working computer
> >>>> http://www.microcenter.com/product/457746/Raspberry_Pi_Zero
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Or this one for $9
> >>> http://getchip.com/pages/chip
> >>>
> >>> There may actually be an opportunity for us in those kinds of devices.
> >>>
> >>> The reality right now is that those boards are perfect computers for
> >>> low-income people - they get essentially all they need from a computer
> >>> (except the display, keyboard and mouse) at a price even the poorest
> can
> >>> afford -- but at the same time, they have no idea about it because the
> >>> computer shops they go into won't tell them because they want to make
> big
> >>> $$$ selling a Microsoft box.
> >>> Instead of the low-income people, the guys ending up buying those
> >>> less-than-$10 full computers are high-income tech people who want to
> have
> >>> fun and do crazy things with them.
> >>>
> >>> They also seem to be marketed way more for this type of use than as a
> >>> computer for low income people (obviously - people working on them are
> just
> >>> like us, they know how the tech world ticks, but they have not
> necessarily
> >>> even met a really poor person in their lives).
> >>>
> >>> If we can get OMLx to work well on one of those (I have a C.H.I.P.
> >>> prototype, so can look into it a bit when Lx3 is done), there may be an
> >>> opportunity to put it into a super-cheap but acceptable case, bundle
> with a
> >>> cheap but ok keyboard and mouse (and possibly display, but that may be
> >>> optional because most poor people have a TV they could use as output
> device)
> >>> and just market it as a complete computer for those who can't afford
> to or
> >>> don't want to shell out hundreds of $$$.
> >>>
> >>> One concern is that they're low on memory (Pi 0 and C.H.I.P. are both
> >>> limited to 512 MB RAM, not sure if they can run that many useful
> things even
> >>> on top of LXQt).
> >>> But there's some options that are much better and still quite
> affordable
> >>> (e.g. Pi 3, HiKey, DragonBoard 410c). And all of them are marketed
> towards
> >>> tech people, not so much poor people in need of a computer.
> >>>
> >>> So here's a question for the marketing team -- can we reach that group,
> >>> or groups that want to help them? (Let's assume logistics are sorted
> out, I
> >>> have "access" to people who are skilled enough to put a board into a
> case,
> >>> put in an SD card, verify it boots, and mail it anywhere in the world.)
> >>>
> >>> ttyl
> >>> bero
> >>
> >>
> >>
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