[om-infra] MLs: some users automatically unsubscribed

Anurag Bhandari ab at anuragbhandari.com
Tue Aug 9 03:14:53 EDT 2016


Hi JCL,

Is this still a problem? Colin and Crisb recently separately informed me of
failing messages. I have raised a ticked with my hosting company. I'll
update you guys once I hear back from Arvixe.

Thanks,
Anurag

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:02 PM, Jean-Claude Vanier <jclvanier at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> our new ML manager, mailman, seems to run better than the preceding
> one but there remains some annoying issues.
>
> * free.fr: users whose email address is hosted at free.fr doesn't
> receive the om-cooker messages because of the IP address of the sender
> (mailman):
> >Final-Recipient: rfc822; xxxxxxxx at free.fr
> >Original-Recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx at free.fr
> >Action: failed
> >Status: 4.0.0
> >Remote-MTA: dns; mx1.free.fr
> >Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 451 too many errors from your ip (23.83.215.13),
> please
> >    visit http://postmaster.free.fr/"""
>
>
> From http://postmaster.free.fr/:
> >Is my IP blocked ?
> >IP 23.83.215.13 is blacklisted for 86265s (too many errors (unexisting
> recipients, broken connections), testing)
>
> So, probably, the smtp server is used by misconfigured email services.
> We cannot manage such issues.
>
>
> * aol.com + compuserve.com: users using those email providers are in
> fact only 2: maik and itchka. The issue is:
>
> >Final-Recipient: rfc822; xxxxx at compuserve.com (or xxxxx at aol.com)
> >Original-Recipient: rfc822;xxxxx at compuserve.com (or xxxxx at aol.com)
> >Action: failed
> >Status: 5.2.1
> >Remote-MTA: dns; mailin-02.mx.aol.com
> >Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 521 5.2.1 :  (DMARC:AOL) This message failed DMARC
> >   Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit
> >   http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-
> updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/"""
>
> They suggest:
> >For mailing lists we recommend configuring reply behavior to fill the
> From line with the mailing list's address
> >rather than the sender's and put the actual user / sender address into
> the Reply-To: line.
> >Please also note that current "auto unsubscribe" logic based upon bounces
> might be too rigid until this change has been in place for a while.
>
> I'm not sure if this change, if possible, is what we want.
>
> So, which solution do we have?
>
> 1) we continue as this
>  --> obviously, this is not very comfortable
> Maybe, anurag can talk to the provider to see if something can be done
> on server side.
>
> 2) we build our own mailman in one of the oma's server or one member server
> --> yet another (not so simple) service to manage, therefore someone
> available to do it
> But this would be the situation in which we would have the best control
>
> 3) we switch the lists to discourse
> --> users will have to set their password again
> --> easy for small lists like workshop, QA
> --> might disturb a lot of cooker people
>
> Any other idea?
>



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