[om-council] Meeting today?

Alexey Vokhmin avokhmin at gmail.com
Thu May 12 19:18:01 EDT 2016


Hi!

Maybe need try to do something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackathon
?
- create anounce;
- select 1 day;
- create registration of the teams;
- etc.

?

In this case maybe we can get some devs for us and fix some bugs?

As I remember: each team can suggest some idea and should implement it OR
we suggest some list of tasks, which need to do.

Cheers,
Alexey


2016-05-13 2:07 GMT+03:00 Jean-Claude Vanier <jclvanier at gmail.com>:

> Since the discussion has opened, I'll try to summarize the situation
> as I can see it:
> -- we have testers but not enough devs to fix the bugs
> -- fixing the bugs are crucial / essential /  inescapable in our
> development
> -- some of the bugs are related to package compatibilities that can be
> simply fixed by updates
> -- there are some requests for updates too
> -- the updates can be done by putting the sources somewhere in the build
> system
> -- probably this is not to complicated to achieve in most cases if:
>   - we have an account in the build system
>   - we know where to put the sources
>   - we know how to modify / reuse the spec file, eventually
> -- people who wants to help in that field should start to learn how to
> perform simple tasks like how to build a rpm
>
> If I'm not completely wrong, we could establish a special abf
> beginners team. The members of that team could help each other to find
> what is required to get started and build their own doc (wiki?) and
> have their own channel (irc, ML) to discuss the issues encountered.
> Personally, I don't know too much in that field, but I can start to
> learn and help the team to begin.
>
>
>
> 2016-05-12 22:54 GMT+02:00 rugyada <rugyada at gmail.com>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Yep, I raised the issue because of realizing that some people, well
> > known and contributors already in other fields - so you can bet they
> > are not pop-up-and-vanish guys, incidentally - wished to start in help
> > with packaging, or at least to try and see if they are able to do.
> >
> > Instead of being glad and see it as a surplus value, they had to face
> > the RTFM attitude, or closed minds (when not silly arrogance),
> > ignored, and so on.
> > Re the F** manual it's hard to find it, when ever available.
> >
> > Given for grant that developers' time is precious, in my opinion it
> > should be seen as a time investment whose fruits will be produced only
> > with the time.
> >
> > That's all folks.
> >
> > Disclaimer: I've no merit nor skills to discuss the topic, if not by
> > common sense to see the issue and report it. However I can witness the
> > MIB experience, where each newcomer was supported and mentored by an
> > expert packager since the beginning. Until he was able to walk with
> > his own legs and sometimes to surpass the master ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > 2016-05-12 17:53 GMT+02:00 Kate Lebedeff <kate at lebedeff.co.uk>:
> >> It is in agenda for next TC, you and Cristina as speakers:)
> >>
> >> https://project.openmandriva.org/meetings/63
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12May, 2016, at 15:37, Raphaël Jadot <rj at hodo.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's put it for next W :)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from Yandex.Mail for mobile
> >>
> >> 12.05.2016, 14:24, "Kate Lebedeff" <kate at lebedeff.co.uk>:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Raph
> >>
> >> Important topic, imo is for TC, where we have target audience
> >>
> >> Shall i put it for next week's Wednesday agenda?
> >> Or you wish to start it today with council?
> >>
> >>
> >>  On 12.05.2016, at 14:20, Raphaël Jadot <rj at hodo.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Yes but i'm not sure i'll be connected on time. And maybe it's more a
> TC
> >> topic, but we really lack for mentors and people who can help beginners
> (at
> >> least in packaging skills) being involved. It's a hard situation where
> >> developers feels alone and would need help, but people interested in
> >> providing help face a wall of complexity (and even do not know from
> where to
> >> start, don't have the required knowledge, don't know which
> documentation is
> >> good…)
> >>
> >>  Cristina raised the issue sooner in mailing lists but there was no
> reply.
> >>
> >>  We may not find a solution but I feel a necessity to talk about this.
> >>
> >>  --
> >>  Sent from Yandex.Mail for mobile
> >>
> >>  12.05.2016, 10:49, "Kate Lebedeff" <kate at lebedeff.co.uk>:
> >>
> >>
> >>  Hi!
> >>
> >>  Anybody has agenda items for today?
> >>
> >>  Cheers
>
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